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02/28/2014 08:00 AM House ENERGY


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08:10:06 AM Start
08:10:58 AM Presentation: Alaska Power Association
09:25:26 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
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+ Alaska Power Association Presentations: TELECONFERENCED
- "APA Overview" by Crystal Enkvist, Director of
Member & Public Relations
- "Alaska Railbelt Cooperative Transmission &
Electric Company" by Joe Griffith, CEO, Matanuska
Electric Association, & ARCTEC Board of Directors
- "Price Cost Equalization" by Clay Koplin, CEO,
Cordova Electric Cooperative
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON ENERGY                                                                              
                       February 28, 2014                                                                                        
                           8:10 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Doug Isaacson, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Shelley Hughes                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Charisse Millett, Co-Chair                                                                                       
Representative Neal Foster                                                                                                      
Representative Pete Higgins                                                                                                     
Representative Benjamin Nageak                                                                                                  
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION:  ALASKA POWER ASSOCIATION                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CRYSTAL ENKVIST, Director                                                                                                       
Member & Public Relations                                                                                                       
Alaska Power Association                                                                                                        
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented the Alaska Power Association's                                                                 
2014 legislative priorities.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CLAY KOPLIN, CEO                                                                                                                
Cordova Electric Cooperative, Inc.                                                                                              
Cordova, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented the Alaska Power Association's                                                                 
Legislative Resolutions for 2014.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
JOE GRIFFITH, General Manager                                                                                                   
Matanuska Electric Association;                                                                                                 
CEO, Alaska Railbelt Cooperative Transmission & Electric Company                                                                
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:    Provided the  Alaska  Power  Association's                                                            
capital funding requests.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:10:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DOUG ISAACSON  called  the  House Special  Committee  on                                                            
Energy meeting to  order at 8:10 a.m.  Representatives  Hughes and                                                              
Isaacson were present at the call to order.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION:  Alaska Power Association                                                                                        
            PRESENTATION:  Alaska Power Association                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:10:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ISAACSON  announced  that  the only  order  of  business                                                              
would be a presentation by the Alaska Power Association.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:11:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CRYSTAL  ENKVIST,  Director,  Member &  Public  Relations,  Alaska                                                              
Power  Association (APA),  directed  attention  to the  PowerPoint                                                              
presentation    entitled,   "Alaska    Power   Association    2014                                                              
Legislative  Priorities."    Prior to  sharing  APA's  legislative                                                              
priorities, she informed  the committee that APA is  a 62-year old                                                              
trade association  for the  electric utility  industry in  Alaska.                                                              
Its   members    are   electric   cooperatives,    municipal-owned                                                              
utilities,  joint action agencies,  and investor-owned  utilities;                                                              
the largest member  is Chugach Electric Association,  Inc. and the                                                              
smallest   member   is   Tanalian    Electric   Cooperative   Inc.                                                              
Furthermore,  APA members span  the state  from Barrow  to Kodiak,                                                              
and  from  Unalaska  down  the  Inside  Passage.    Regarding  the                                                              
development  of APA's  legislative priorities,  Ms. Enkvist  noted                                                              
that although APA  has a diverse electric utility  membership, its                                                              
members speak  with one  voice on  issues with  a statewide  and a                                                              
Railbelt focus.   The resolution  process begins with  issues that                                                              
are  brought by  APA  members to  its Resolutions  and  Government                                                              
Affairs  Steering  Committee,  which   is  comprised  of  electric                                                              
utility managers  and directors  from rural  and urban  utilities.                                                              
The  committee then  makes  recommendations to  the  APA board  of                                                              
directors  on legislative  positions.    Also, the  APA  Managers'                                                              
Forum  is a  group of  electric  utility CEOs  co-chaired by  Clay                                                              
Koplin of Cordova  Electric Cooperative Inc. (CEC)  and Brad Evans                                                              
of Chugach Electric  Association Inc. (Chugach),  which also makes                                                              
recommendations  to the board.   Finally, legislative  resolutions                                                              
are reviewed  by  the board  and acted  upon [slide  6].  Slide  7                                                              
listed   APA's   State   Legislative    Resolutions,   which   she                                                              
characterized  as "a  good combination  of  statewide, rural,  and                                                              
Railbelt-focused  issues."  Ms.  Enkvist pointed out  that because                                                              
of the  diversity within  the membership  of APA, the  resolutions                                                              
are not ranked by priority.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:16:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ISAACSON  recalled  there   have  been  questions  about                                                              
prioritization  because the  legislature will  definitely have  to                                                              
prioritize  projects  in light  of  the  budget  cuts.   He  asked                                                              
whether APA  can determine which  projects should go first  of the                                                              
projects  "in  motion"  this  year,  or in  the  future,  as  this                                                              
information  from those who  develop the  state's resources  would                                                              
be helpful to legislators.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. ENKVIST  said sure,  and added  that APA wants  to be  part of                                                              
the process.   The association  believes the legislature's  active                                                              
support  of its  position  will  strengthen the  electric  utility                                                              
industry's  ability  to  provide safe,  reliable,  and  affordable                                                              
power to Alaskans.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:18:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CLAY KOPLIN,  CEO, CEC, and co-chair  of the APA  Manager's Forum,                                                              
in response  to Co-Chair  Isaacson, noted  that the Alaska  Energy                                                              
Authority  (AEA)  Department  of Commerce,  Community  &  Economic                                                              
Development,  carefully measures  and communicates the  successes,                                                              
failures, and  implementation of its  programs.  His intent  is to                                                              
give  the committee  a  "qualitative feel"  for  how AEA  programs                                                              
work  for the  electric  utilities and  other  end-users, and  for                                                              
their  importance and  effectiveness.   He  directed attention  to                                                              
the programs  that are  supported by  APA's resolutions  and which                                                              
are  primarily,   but  not  exclusively,  rural-focused   programs                                                              
[slide  9].     The  first  resolution  was  in   support  of  the                                                              
[Renewable  Energy  Fund Grant  Recommendation  Program](renewable                                                              
energy fund  program), which  is a brick  and mortar  program that                                                              
fits together  with other programs  to address different  parts of                                                              
the energy problem.   Mr. Koplin opined the renewable  energy fund                                                              
program    is    effective,    well-structured,     well-governed,                                                              
successful, and follows  an effective process.  He  advised that a                                                              
project  can  be successful  in  that  it  stays on  schedule  and                                                              
within  its  scope;  however,  if  it is  not  successful  on  the                                                              
business side,  such as  creating jobs,  improving the  quality of                                                              
life  in  a community,  and  supporting  the  economy, it  is  not                                                              
reaching  its goal.    On the  other hand,  reducing  the cost  of                                                              
energy just  a little  can mean a  lot to the  economy of  a rural                                                              
community.  The  structure of AEA's renewable energy  fund program                                                              
and  its advisory  committee  allows flexibility.    In order  for                                                              
legislators  to  prioritize  the  programs  to  achieve  the  best                                                              
business value,  one must question  how the projects  and programs                                                              
align  with   business  strategies   throughout  the   state;  for                                                              
example,  each successful  project  in the  renewable energy  fund                                                              
program  reduces  demand  on the  Power  Cost  Equalization  (PCE)                                                              
program.   He cautioned  against eliminating  programs instead  of                                                              
shrinking each program  somewhat, so as to keep  a balance between                                                              
brick  and mortar  projects, research  and  development, and  PCE,                                                              
where applicable.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:22:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KOPLIN  described the  first  of  two renewable  energy  fund                                                              
projects  in  Cordova:    Cordova  received  $8  million  for  the                                                              
Humpback  Creek  Hydroelectric  Project  which is  now  saving  $1                                                              
million  per   year  on  diesel   and  thousands  of   dollars  on                                                              
operations   and  maintenance  costs,   and  bringing   additional                                                              
capacity and  lower cost  energy for the  fishing industry.   This                                                              
change  has resulted  in  growth  for Cordova  -  in 2010  Cordova                                                              
reported the  fifth largest dollar  value of seafood  delivered in                                                              
the U.S. - and additional raw fish tax revenues for the state.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ISAACSON  surmised this  is the  direct result  of having                                                              
cheap power.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KOPLIN said  yes,  the  cheaper hydroelectric  (hydro)  power                                                              
used by onshore  processing plants turned "an  economic corner" in                                                              
competition   with   off-shore   floating  processors   that   are                                                              
operating  on diesel  power.    Sustainable business  success  was                                                              
achieved at a rate to processors of $0.20 per kilowatt hour.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HUGHES asked  where Cordova  ranks when  comparing                                                              
the  cost of  power with  that of  urban  and rural  areas of  the                                                              
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KOPLIN  estimated  Cordova's residential  rates  are  getting                                                              
closer to those  of larger communities because  rates in Fairbanks                                                              
and  Homer are  increasing due  to the  price of  gas.   Cordova's                                                              
residential rates  range from $0.35-$0.40  per kilowatt hour.   In                                                              
further  response  to  Representative   Hughes,  he  said  Cordova                                                              
cannot store  water for its  run-of-the-river hydro  projects thus                                                              
must  use diesel  by April  of each  year.   He further  explained                                                              
that the mountain  water for the hydro system does  not melt until                                                              
May or June.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:27:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KOPLIN  stated   that  the  second  hydro   project  was  not                                                              
successful; however,  the use of a high risk  technology is worthy                                                              
of notice.   The project was  organic Rankine cycle  heat recovery                                                              
on a  diesel unit.   Although there were  no loads to  deliver the                                                              
heat  to, the  project is  getting 5  percent extra  power from  a                                                              
diesel generator,  which is  a significant  boon to fuel  savings.                                                              
In  addition,  construction  of   the  project  took  longer  than                                                              
expected  and was  more expensive,  but  he credited  AEA for  its                                                              
intelligent  use of  the  lessons  learned.   He  turned to  APA's                                                              
resolution  in support  of  the  Emerging Energy  Technology  Fund                                                              
(EETF),  advising EETF  is  the high-risk  piece  in APA's  energy                                                              
portfolio  [slide  10].    He  said  it  is  appropriate  for  the                                                              
legislature  to  invest heavily  in  this  fund, as  Alaska  faces                                                              
unique  and  varied challenges.      There  was a  discovery  that                                                              
bacteria in  thermokarst lakes  in the  Arctic produce  methane at                                                              
low  temperatures.   This is  an  opportunity for  a process  that                                                              
converts household  waste to  energy, thus  EETF provided  a grant                                                              
to  fund  a  project  in  Cordova   in  partnership  with  Cordova                                                              
Junior/Senior  High School,  the  University  of Alaska  Fairbanks                                                              
(UAF), the Alaska  Center for Energy and Power  (ACEP), the Denali                                                              
Commission,  and CEC.   The  project determined  feasibility on  a                                                              
commercial scale  and engaged the  senior high school  students in                                                              
a scientific study.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:32:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HUGHES asked  whether fish  waste was utilized  in                                                              
the project.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KOPLIN observed  that Copper  River  salmon are  high in  oil                                                              
content   and  Cordova   has   a  fish   oil   plant  to   produce                                                              
pharmaceutical  grade fish  oil and organic  fish fertilizer  from                                                              
fish  waste.    He  credited the  lower  cost  of  electricity  in                                                              
Cordova  for  the  plant's  success.   Mr.  Koplin  stressed  EETF                                                              
brings  a  collaboration  of the  science  community  and  private                                                              
partnerships,  and  also  brings   technical  expertise  to  rural                                                              
areas, and  recommended that the  legislature fund the  program at                                                              
the level  requested by AEA.   The next resolution was  in support                                                              
of  PCE,  which  he  characterized   as  a  survival  program  for                                                              
communities and  many rural utilities  [slide 11].   He recognized                                                              
the legislature's funding  of PCE last year and  urged for funding                                                              
this  year,  acknowledging   that  CEC  seeks  to   eliminate  its                                                              
dependence on the  program in the future through  new alternatives                                                              
and solutions.    Cordova Electric  has reduced its use  of PCE by                                                              
one-half  of the  dollar value,  even  though fuel  costs are  six                                                              
times higher, and it is producing more energy.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ISAACSON questioned  whether CEC  continues to  meet its                                                              
fixed-costs  demand   because  of  efficiencies  and   lower  cost                                                              
operations.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. KOPLIN  explained that CEC has  kept its rates from  rising in                                                              
accordance with  the agreement for  a state grant that  funds will                                                              
benefit  consumers when  possible.   In some  areas, rates  are up                                                              
because  of investments  in  infrastructure  that  were needed  to                                                              
keep up with  the growth in  the processing industry, but  for the                                                              
most part,  CEC is using less  diesel fuel.  Furthermore,  the PCE                                                              
formula is such that CEC now qualifies for less funding.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ISAACSON related  that some  APA members  have a  harder                                                              
time  meeting their  fixed-cost  obligations as  a  result of  the                                                              
reductions in PCE.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:37:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. KOPLIN  agreed the reduction  in PCE puts pressure  on utility                                                              
rates.   The goal of AEA  and its programs  is to reduce  the cost                                                              
of energy, and PCE is part, but not all, of the solution.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ISAACSON asked  how the more  successful utilities  help                                                              
out other members of APA that are less successful.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. KOPLIN responded  that APA uses key networks such  as AEA, the                                                              
Denali  Commission, and  the Alaska  Village Electric  Cooperative                                                              
(AVEC) to  share information  with rural  communities that  do not                                                              
have the  expertise to own and  operate their electric  systems in                                                              
the  most   efficient  manner.     In  addition,   these  umbrella                                                              
organizations spread information statewide.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. ENKVIST  interjected that  the APA  Manager's Forum,  which is                                                              
composed  of member  utilities'  managers from  around the  state,                                                              
meets frequently  and shares  information, support,  and sometimes                                                              
equipment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. KOPLIN  turned attention to  the resolution in support  of the                                                              
state funding  match for  the Denali Commission  [slide 12].   The                                                              
Denali  Commission is  an entity  with a focus  on building  rural                                                              
infrastructure  such  as improvements  to  tank farms  to  prevent                                                              
further  site contamination.    A high  level  of federal  funding                                                              
from  previous   years  is  no  longer  available,   but  priority                                                              
projects  needing over  $400  million have  been  identified.   As                                                              
cost-saving measures,  the Denali  Commission, AEA, and  AVEC have                                                              
shared administrative  and other resources,  and he urged  for the                                                              
state to  demonstrate its commitment  to the program  by providing                                                              
funds matching the remaining federal funding.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:43:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HUGHES  inquired  as  to  the  amount  of  federal                                                              
funding the Denali Commission has received over the years.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:43:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. KOPLIN answered  that the Denali Commission  has received $500                                                              
million to date;  this year's federal funding is  $13 million thus                                                              
a  [200  percent]  match  is  $26 million  from  the  state.    He                                                              
restated  that  the  administration  process is  complete  on  the                                                              
identified  projects.  In  response to  Representative Hughes,  he                                                              
said the state has  contributed very little, but he  was unsure of                                                              
the amount.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ISAACSON pointed  out the  resolution seeks  a match  of                                                              
200 percent.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KOPLIN related  APA's  view that  unless  the state  provides                                                              
matching funds, the federal funding will continue to shrink.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ISAACSON  raised the  possibility that  PCE may  have $56                                                              
million in its endowment,  but only need $44 million.   If that is                                                              
so,  he  asked   whether  the  excess  should   be  placed  toward                                                              
inflation-proofing PCE, or toward [the Denali Commission match].                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KOPLIN  referred to  the  situation  with the  Alaska  Public                                                              
Employees' Retirement  System and the Alaska  Teachers' Retirement                                                              
System:   skimming the earnings  from a  fund does not  assure the                                                              
long-term viability of that fund.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ISAACSON suggested  the  answer is  to move  all of  the                                                              
communities to success.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HUGHES  inquired as to why Mr.  Koplin believes the                                                              
federal money will stop coming eventually.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KOPLIN said  he has  heard  this anecdotally  within the  APA                                                              
network.  The Denali Commission funding is discretionary.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HUGHES  sought confirmation on the  federal funding                                                              
situation, perhaps from the Alaska Congressional Delegation.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ISAACSON will confirm and report to the committee.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:47:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOE  GRIFFITH,  General Manager,  Matanuska  Electric  Association                                                              
(MEA); CEO,  Alaska Railbelt  Cooperative Transmission  & Electric                                                              
Company (ARCTEC),  first responded to Co-Chair  Isaacson's earlier                                                              
question, confirming  for the  committee that  the Railbelt  has a                                                              
mutual aid  system through ARCTEC;  in fact, ARCTEC is  creating a                                                              
listing of  the material  and equipment  available at  the various                                                              
utilities.    He then  directed  attention  to the  resolution  to                                                              
create  an  energy  policy [implementation  plan]  for  the  state                                                              
[slide  13].   The  closest  the state  has  to an  energy  policy                                                              
implementation  plan  is the  renewable  standard  [passed in  the                                                              
26th Alaska  State Legislature].   Mr. Griffith said  MEA believes                                                              
an  energy   policy  implementation   plan  follows   the  policy,                                                              
although  "one  would  hope  those  operate  in  lock-step."    He                                                              
stressed  that the  industry  needs financial  support,  beginning                                                              
with transmission  in the  Railbelt and  statewide, because  it is                                                              
hard  to  show a  profit  on  a transmission  facility,  with  the                                                              
exception  of  the  Bradley  Lake   Hydroelectric  Project,  where                                                              
inexpensive power  is delivered to  big users.  On  the generation                                                              
side, the  Railbelt utilities have  invested over $1  billion, and                                                              
state funds for the transmission system are now needed.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ISAACSON  mentioned  that   there  is  related  proposed                                                              
legislation  [HB  340]  sponsored  by  Co-Chair  Millett  that  is                                                              
scheduled for a hearing 3/19/14.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:51:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRIFFITH  added that  the proposed  legislation addresses  the                                                              
independent  system  operator  (ISO)  concept  for  the  Railbelt.                                                              
Returning to  the resolution,  he said it  also urges  funding for                                                              
fuel development  and storage which  is in response to  the recent                                                              
near-crisis shortage  in the natural  gas supply to  the Railbelt.                                                              
He  explained that  80 percent  of  natural gas  is generated  and                                                              
there was  insufficient storage to  carry the Railbelt load.   The                                                              
Railbelt  utilities   were  nearly  at  the  point   of  importing                                                              
liquefied  natural gas  (LNG)  from Canada  when  Hilcorp LLC  was                                                              
able to produce  more gas from Cook  Inlet - at a  realistic price                                                              
- at least through  March, 2018.  There was also  a legal question                                                              
that was resolved  by the Attorney General of Alaska.   The supply                                                              
situation  was further  supported by  the Cook  Inlet Natural  Gas                                                              
Storage  Alaska  (CINGSA)  facility   which  is  owned  by  ENSTAR                                                              
Natural  Gas  Company  and  supplies gas  to  the  utilities  when                                                              
needed.  Mr.  Griffith reiterated that the PCE  [formula] is based                                                              
partially on  costs in  the Railbelt,  and increasing  costs there                                                              
will  affect utilities  all  over the  state.   He  turned to  the                                                              
resolution  supporting capital  funding  for  energy projects  and                                                              
informed  the committee that  ARCTEC has  requested state  funding                                                              
for major  energy projects because  utilities large and  small are                                                              
in need of  capital [slide 14].    He acknowledged that  the Power                                                              
Project  Loan Fund  through  AEA provides  some  funding, and  the                                                              
Sustainable   Energy  Transmission   System   and  Supply   (SETS)                                                              
Development  Program  through the  Alaska  Industrial  Development                                                              
and  Export  Authority  (AIDEA)  was  funded  with  $250  million;                                                              
however,   the  most   recent  estimate   to   fix  the   Railbelt                                                              
Transmission System  was $900 million,  the MEA natural  gas power                                                              
plant under construction  at Eklutna is costing  $315 million, and                                                              
the costs  are overtaxing  to the industry.   Mr. Griffith  opined                                                              
it is  easy for  the state to  back up  the utilities'  debt which                                                              
would allow  the industry  to achieve better  terms and  access to                                                              
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:56:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ISAACSON  asked for the particulars of  the Power Project                                                              
Loan Fund.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GRIFFITH explained  the Power  Project Loan  Fund only  funds                                                              
projects costing  less than $5 million;  a loan amount  above that                                                              
requires   legislative   approval.     The   program   will   fund                                                              
feasibility studies with good terms, but it is underfunded.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. KOPLIN  expressed his belief that  the fund has a  $2 million-                                                              
$3 million balance.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRIFFITH, in  further response to Co-Chair  Isaacson, said for                                                              
projects over  $5 million, it  can be easier  to get a  grant than                                                              
to  get multiple  loans.   The existing  Power  Project Loan  Fund                                                              
works when  funding direct loans  to villages for  small projects,                                                              
but that was not the original intent.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ISAACSON  surmised if the  program were capitalized  at a                                                              
higher level,  the loan fund  would be  useful since the  state is                                                              
unable  to fund  all  of the  requested grants.    Loan funds  are                                                              
preferable  because  the  pool  of  money  will  be  replaced  and                                                              
available for other  projects - the day of grants  has passed, yet                                                              
the infrastructure is needed.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HUGHES asked  whether there  is an annual  deposit                                                              
made to the Power Project Loan Fund.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:00:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GRIFFITH  recalled  the  capitalization  was  from  a  single                                                              
deposit.   He agreed loans  make sense, but  if a loan  program is                                                              
undercapitalized  the first project  uses the balance;  originally                                                              
the SETS  revolving fund was intended  to hold $1 billion  thus at                                                              
$250 million  it is  underutilized as well.   The state's  ability                                                              
to  guarantee   loans,  such   as  was   done  for  Bradley   Lake                                                              
Hydroelectric,  is sufficient for  investment bankers  to respond.                                                              
Mr.  Griffith opined  capitalization of  the loan  funds, and  how                                                              
and  who uses  the  funds, would  fall  under  the state's  energy                                                              
policy.    He directed  attention  to  the  resolution  supporting                                                              
construction  of  a natural  gas  pipeline, saying  that  electric                                                              
generation for  half of  the [population] is  from of  natural gas                                                              
[slide 15].   On the  other hand, the  state's energy  policy must                                                              
also address  the cost  of fuel  in rural  areas.  Bringing  North                                                              
Slope  gas to market  will begin  to solve  the problem;  however,                                                              
there  must be a  market bigger  than the  Railbelt utilities  for                                                              
gas coming  from a  pipeline.  If  there is  not an export  market                                                              
for reasonable  quantities  of natural  gas, the  gas needs  to be                                                              
processed into  LNG in a  plant that is  currently "locked  up" by                                                              
ConocoPhillips  Alaska,  Inc.   Finally, the  resolution  supports                                                              
the use  of Alaska  royalty natural gas  in communities  along the                                                              
pipeline  route, and  he referred  to a ruling  from the  Attorney                                                              
General  of Alaska  that this would  qualify  as "the highest  and                                                              
best use for the state."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:05:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ISAACSON provided  his  interpretation of  Article 8  of                                                              
the Alaska State  Constitution, and said the law  states there can                                                              
be a negotiated  contract with gas utilities to purchase  gas at a                                                              
subsidized rate.   As a  result, there  would be less  money going                                                              
to the  state treasury  but the  [savings from  the lower  cost of                                                              
energy] going  to the  community would allow  the economy  to grow                                                              
and wealth  to be  created by  private investment  rather  than by                                                              
the state's  "bankrupt philosophy,  and that's  bankrupting  us to                                                              
this day."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRIFFITH  turned to  a resolution  supporting utility  efforts                                                              
to create  a unified transmission  system for the  Railbelt [slide                                                              
16].    He  explained  that  APA   supports  the  efforts  by  the                                                              
utilities to  follow an independent  system operator  (ISO) [which                                                              
manages  transmission   and  coordinates  the  spot   market]  and                                                              
Transco  [which owns  the transmission  and  controls the  system]                                                              
concept  for  the  Railbelt.     At  this  time  the  two  biggest                                                              
utilities in  the state,  Chugach and MEA,  are seeking  the means                                                              
to make this  happen.  Anchorage Municipal Light  and Power (ML&P)                                                              
has been invited to participate.  He remarked:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     And in that  case then you would define  the independent                                                                   
     system   operator  that  ran   the  whole   transmission                                                                   
     system,  and you  would define  custody transfer  points                                                                   
     somewhere  on the Kenai  and probably  Healy, up  north,                                                                   
     so  north of  the range  does their  own load  balancing                                                                   
     and dispatching  - south of some point on  Kenai, either                                                                   
     Quartz Creek  or Soldotna, Homer does its  own, the rest                                                                   
     of us all  fall under one Transco/ISO concept.   And ...                                                                   
     the  bill  dropped   in  by  Senator  Micciche   and  by                                                                   
     Representative Millet  does that, and it brings  a study                                                                   
     forward  that would  answer the questions  that many  of                                                                   
     the   agencies,   most   particularly   the   Regulatory                                                                   
     Commission  of Alaska,  who has  no real  idea how  they                                                                   
     might be tasked to support that at this point.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRIFFITH  stressed that  the Railbelt does  not have  a robust                                                              
grid; in  fact, $250 million will  be saved each year  if upgrades                                                              
are  made  so  that  the  transmission  system  can  use  economic                                                              
dispatch.   Even a "small fix"  results in substantial  savings to                                                              
members  and fosters  economic development,  such  as happened  in                                                              
Cordova.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:09:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ISAACSON  asked whether a $250 million  per annum savings                                                              
on  a  $904  million  investment  is  "bankable"  through  private                                                              
financing.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRIFFITH cautioned  that the limiting factors  are the balance                                                              
sheets of  the utilities; at this  time, each utility  has reached                                                              
its debt  limits due  to the construction  of generation  upgrades                                                              
which have  cost $1.2  billion.  Without  the ability  to shoulder                                                              
additional  debt the utilities  are "hamstrung."   In  response to                                                              
Co-Chair Isaacson,  he said  the hope is  that with a  large grant                                                              
the ISO/Transco entity  can take care of the system  and build the                                                              
improvements.   Although AEA has  reported that the  utilities can                                                              
obtain financing  with their [future]  savings, he opined  that is                                                              
"hopeless"  without  the ability  to  take  on  extra debt.    Mr.                                                              
Griffith then  turned to  the resolution in  support of  using the                                                              
Bradley  Lake  [Hydroelectric]  Model  for  financing  state-owned                                                              
hydroelectric  projects [slide  17].  Originally,  the project  at                                                              
Bradley  Lake began  with a  50 percent  equity contribution  from                                                              
the state  and 50  percent debt  to the  utilities through  state-                                                              
issued  bonds.    Throughout  the lifetime  of  the  project,  the                                                              
utilities pay  the same  amount for  power: approximately  $50 per                                                              
megawatt hour.   He characterized  the project at Bradley  Lake as                                                              
a "screaming  success," and  urged for the  use of this  financing                                                              
model again.   Although hampered by extremely high  project costs,                                                              
the public-private partnership concept works.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:13:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRIFFITH  directed attention to  the resolution in  support of                                                              
legislation to address  metals theft.  Because the  cost of copper                                                              
is high,  copper theft  has increased and  the losses  and damages                                                              
are  passed on  to members.   The  Associated General  Contractors                                                              
organization  is  also  in  support   of  this  legislation.    In                                                              
response  to Representative  Hughes, he  said the  copper is  sold                                                              
through  scrap   dealers;  the  legislation   under  consideration                                                              
allows  for the tracking  of copper  or other  unique metals  that                                                              
are marketed through scrap dealers.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. KOPLIN  pointed out  that underground cable  cost $3  per foot                                                              
or $7,500 per reel.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRIFFITH  said he was  aware of five  or six thefts  this past                                                              
year; at  MEA, there  were three  instances.   In response  to Co-                                                              
Chair Isaacson,  he explained that  the proposed  legislation will                                                              
require a track on the affected metals.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:19:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ISAACSON reviewed  the  following  APA resolutions  that                                                              
request  full  state funding:    the  Renewable Energy  Fund;  the                                                              
Emerging  Energy Technology  Fund;  Power  Cost Equalization;  200                                                              
percent   state  matching   funds   to  the   Denali   Commission;                                                              
transmission  lines; metal  theft;  the Power  Project Loan  Fund;                                                              
and the Sustainable Energy Transmission System and Supply.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GRIFFITH  added  the University  of  Alaska  Fairbanks  (UAF)                                                              
power plant.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ISAACSON related  a constraint on the UAF  power plant is                                                              
that the federal  government will not allow coal  plants to exceed                                                              
their  current  permit,  although  there  is  pending  legislation                                                              
encouraging the governor  to examine this situation.   As a matter                                                              
of fact, if  the UAF coal plant  were built at a  sufficient size,                                                              
it  would displace  diesel  fuel  and  would also  provide  excess                                                              
generation   for  other   purposes.     He   confirmed  that   the                                                              
legislature seeks  to fund the project,  which is a  combined heat                                                              
and  power   plant.    Co-Chair   Isaacson  urged   for  long-term                                                              
solutions  to  the  search for  electricity  because  with  enough                                                              
inexpensive  electricity, Alaska  can attract domestic  businesses                                                              
such  as the computer  industry.    He  closed, "When  we own  the                                                              
resource,  we  set  the  price;   therefore,  we  set  the  market                                                              
conditions,  and we  must  start thinking  that  way, and  that'll                                                              
help us  to figure out  how we fund  all of these  different funds                                                              
that have been created."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:25:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being  no further business  before the committee,  the House                                                              
Special Committee on Energy meeting was adjourned at 9:25 a.m.                                                                  

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